نقاش المستخدم:Netscott
Fair Use Questions
Dear Netscott, we decided to delete the photo by voting because they can’t be consider as fair use. See 1
I think that your behavior ignoring the result of voting is concord with wikipidia rules and policy. So if you have any objection you can freely discussed it instead of making one sided actions. --حكيم دمشق 11:18, 23 فبراير 2006 (UTC)
Do you know the meaning of استرجاع المقال حتى أخر تعديل من قبل ?--Tarawneh 16:33, 24 فبراير 2006 (UTC)
The image was voted for del. Please disucss it first before having it back. --Tarawneh 00:19, 26 فبراير 2006 (UTC)
Do not remove comments posted by other users. It is considered vandalism here. This is your first warning. --Tarawneh 02:53, 26 فبراير 2006 (UTC)
I am simply explaining to you what your actions are considered here. And please stop taking about 'bad faith'. The image is not the original publication of the news paper. Once you provide the original work, it might be reconsidered. The image should be used to show that the Jyllands-Posten papaer work was published by al Fager news paper, and not to show the Jyllands-Posten work it self. This is one of the reasons for voting. And next time, please use Arabic when posting to me. --Tarawneh 03:16, 26 فبراير 2006 (UTC)
You are missing the point.
- I’m an admin, I am supposed to carry out the consensus of the Arabic community.
- Not all Arabic community are capable of reading English. Some would really like to know what we are talking about.
- The article is about Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy, and not the Al-Fajer newspaper republishing the images, the images where republished by lots of other news papers.
- Some believe it is not accepted as a FairUse
Al Fajer news paper is not what you can call highly respectable paper. Some conceder it to be a low ranked yellow page, others conceder it even lower. Newly established, trying to have a market, 90% of its headlines are meaningless, just a Sell Headlines. And even then they talked with respect about the prophet and strongly condemned the actions of Jyllands-Posten.
- Back to what your missing, Newton’s law. For every Action there is a Reaction. The use of the pictures is not considered the same by most of the people here; Al Fajer claims it published the pictures to show what is being said about the prophet Mohammad in Denmark, yet most people believe they did it for the headlines (money). Jyllands-Posten claims that it did it to show Muslims that free of speech means the right to insult them ([1]). It is not the pictures, it was and still is the agenda. This was considered in the Arabic wikipedia. But totally ignored by other wikis.
To make things simple. Al-Fager is after free cheap publicity and it seems the community don't want to be part of Al-Fager game. This is not relevant to the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy.
Now Personally, as a user and not an admin, I can't understand your argument, why is so important to show the picture of al Fager, People are not stupid. It was published, there is no need for a picture to prove it, what will the picture serve. No body is arguing that it was not published. I would understand if the article talked about the Al fager reprint of the Pictures, but this is not the case here, it is not even mentioned yet in the article. How is very important to see how this all got started, when we did not even write about it yet. Explain that to me please.
Any thing else? --Tarawneh 17:46, 26 فبراير 2006 (UTC)
ِAnd It seems that we have now a better image for Fair use. Check out the artcile.--Tarawneh 17:49, 26 فبراير 2006 (UTC)
- Hi guys I think the problem now is solved. the original image was sent to me by Netscott and I published it and add relevant text to the article.--حكيم دمشق 19:15, 26 فبراير 2006 (UTC)
Now things are more realistic 
--Tarawneh 19:23, 26 فبراير 2006 (UTC)